Re: [Cialug] new to this group, and Linux

[Theron Conrey <theron@xxxxxxxxxx>]

David Champion wrote:

> .... speaking as a formerly married geek, I think DH is has the 
> correct answer here. :)
>
> -dc
>
> Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>
> > Who cares how much it costs, as long as the wife is happy!!!
> >
> > On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 12:17, Theron Conrey wrote:
> >
> > > I agree but mac-mini equates non-free home (noble reason) and new 
> > > hardware (more realistic reason)
> > > Theron
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Dave J. Hala Jr." <dave@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:00:46 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Cialug] new to this group, and Linux
> > >
> > > I'd put the wife on a Mac-Mini....
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:29, Theron Conrey wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not rude at all, because you've missed the point.  His wife wants 
> > > > to use a computer that just works. Linux vs. Windows unimportant to 
> > > > the non techie.  However if the only thing a non techie uses for 
> > > > work is windows, and you have to live with that person and fix 
> > > > thier computer problems, it helps to be proficient.  I am (nor the 
> > > > spouse of the author of that article) not a windows admin. or a 
> > > > user.  So when things broke on my wife's laptop the beratment was 
> > > > severe since I earn a living as a "computer guy" and should know 
> > > > how to fix these "simple" problems.  So when windows problems 
> > > > occured I was the guy that had to fix it in my home.    The issue 
> > > > is about 2 things:
> > > >
> > > > One: most computer users (emph. users) assume that all computers 
> > > > behave as windows does and when they don't thier broken.  Nasty truth.
> > > > Two: the guy want's to get his (and i did with mine) wife on a 
> > > > different platform so that I work less on fixing her computer.  
> > > > Saying that however does not imply anything about liking anything.  
> > > > It merely states that what the user is "used too" is windows, 
> > > > simply because thats all they've seen.  
> > > > Theron
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: chris129@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Date: Thu,  2 Jun 2005 11:16:07 -0500
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: [Cialug] new to this group, and Linux
> > > >
> > > > Am I the only one who saw lots of characters on that page that 
> > > > don't exist in my
> > > > set?  Lots of "A^" all over the place with an occasional epsilon...
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, the reviews are ok.  But this part is a bit obnoxious:
> > > > "Remember, I am the average Windows user and I want things to work 
> > > > just like
> > > > they would in Windows."
> > > > Frankly, when people have that attitude I tell them the perfect 
> > > > "distro" for
> > > > them is Windows ;).
> > > > Not to be rude, but if you like Windows you might as well use it!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Theron Conrey <theron@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Adding to what is posted below there is a great article about 
> > > > > different distros and thier ease of use written by a Geeks 
> > > > > spouse.  Not saying that
> > > > > it's a bad thing but similar articles helped my house (wife chose 
> > > > > not to
> > > > > veto) become free.
> > > > > Theron
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe that this forum will snip me, but here goes
> > > > > http://linux-blog.org/index.php?/categories/4-Reviews
> > > > >
> > > > > and if it does it's at the linux-blog.org site under reviews...  
> > > > > Good stuff.
> > > > > Theron
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: David Champion <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:55:34 -0500
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] new to this group, and Linux
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome to the list.
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI, there are Linux / Free Unix groups in Ames and Cedar Falls:
> > > > > http://www.amesfug.org
> > > > > http://www.cedarlug.org
> > > > >
> > > > > We should plan some joint meetings with AmesFUG for this summer! 
> > > > > Actually, stay tuned for an announcement for the June 15th 
> > > > > meeting, I'm guessing some of the Ames people may be interested in 
> > > > > something we have in the works.
> > > > >
> > > > > For you new users, here's my quick rundown of newbie friendly 
> > > > > distributions in order of friendliness:
> > > > >
> > > > > Knoppix (bootable "live cd", no install needed)
> > > > > Mandriva (was: Mandrake)
> > > > > Ubuntu (has either a "live" cd or an installable CD)
> > > > > Suse (the "free" version requires an FTP install, which is a pain)
> > > > > Fedora (the free redhat)
> > > > > Debian
> > > > > ....
> > > > > Slackware
> > > > > ....
> > > > > Writing your own distro from scratch
> > > > > Gentoo
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sure if you ask, someone will burn you a CD of the latest 
> > > > > version of any of those. I personally have the latest Mandriva 
> > > > > 2005 LE (aka Mandrake 10.2), and I have a bunch of the previous 
> > > > > version of Ubuntu.
> > > > >
> > > > > p.s. :
> > > > > We're supposed to be planning an Installfest, which would be handy 
> > > > > for all of these n00bs, but don't have a location or a date yet. 
> > > > > Get on the stick, you Installfest planners! Let me know if you 
> > > > > need the contact info for the Nevlyn Center in Ankeny.
> > > > >
> > > > > -dc
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Asbille wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wednesday 01 June 2005 17:45, Travis Beaty wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm also fond of SuSE.  I use 9.3, I purchased a copy for $12.  I 
> > > > > > started
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > with
> > > > >
> > > > > > Debian and then Red Hat but as a newbie I had trouble so I 
> > > > > > purchased SuSE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 9.0
> > > > >
> > > > > > which I heard had a great install and excellent out of the box 
> > > > > > hardware support.  I'm hooked now because I'm getting better at 
> > > > > > using Yast and I'm comfortable with how well everything works. 
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wednesday 01 June 2005 06:01 pm, albus wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Welcome Michael.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello All!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since we are introducing ourselves, I suppose it is time for me 
> > > > > > > to come
> > > > >
> > > > > out
> > > > >
> > > > > > > of lurker mode and say "Hi!"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm from the teeny weenie town of Osage, northeast of Mason 
> > > > > > > City.   I
> > > > > > > signed up as I was out looking for lugs close to me -- there is 
> > > > > > > only one
> > > > > > > that I am aware of which is closer to me than Des Moines.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As far as my knowledge of Linux, I guess I would characterize 
> > > > > > > myself as on
> > > > > > > the "high side of newbie."  My story of how I was introduced to 
> > > > > > > Linux is
> > > > > > > embarrassing and humorous, as I am probably the only person in 
> > > > > > > the known
> > > > > > > universe who has ever *accidentally* installed Linux.  This 
> > > > > > > happened in
> > > > > > > 2000, and I was so impressed with what I saw, I've never gone 
> > > > > > > back to
> > > > > > > Windows. (FYI, it was Mandrake 7.2 that I installed.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's really embarrassing.  My machismo commands me to shut up 
> > > > > > > about it
> > > > >
> > > > > now.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > At any rate, I would suggest looking at SuSE.  I am now 
> > > > > > > currently running
> > > > > > > 9.2 on my laptop, and it is very nice.  9.3 is out, but I 
> > > > > > > haven't upgraded
> > > > > > > yet, apart from installing KDE 3.4 on my system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm sure there will be others that would argue pro or con about 
> > > > > > > SuSE. 
> > > > >
> > > > > And,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > that great!  It's really a personal thing, what I've gained from 
> > > > > > > my own
> > > > > > > personal experiences with Linux.  If [insert Linux distro here] 
> > > > > > > works for
> > > > > > > you, that's super!!  But keep in mind too that there are MANY 
> > > > > > > high quality
> > > > > > > distros out there that are free, and very good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Welcome to the Linux world.  I think you will like it here!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Travis Beaty
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P.S.  At some point, I'll try to get to a meeting, but it is 
> > > > > > > quite a ways
> > > > > > > to drive for me.
>
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I agree completly.... :)

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